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ravyn 09-02-2004 02:34 PM

otep,kittie(please forgive me for posting this)
just wondering if there are any fans of otep and kittie here and what are you thoughts on the tour rumor???
there just seems to be a lot of sh*t talking in the kittie and otep forums.
what are your toughts?

MourningStar 09-02-2004 05:24 PM

hmm, i combed both their forums yesterday, and the most shit talking i saw was the usual (kittie fans hatin' on otep) the majority seemed pretty cool when it came to Crisis

chriss 09-02-2004 10:56 PM

Crisis/Otep/Kittie tour
Hey Ravyn,
I saw a couple of posts from people saying they have confirmed dates for the end of September in Buffalo and at the beginning of October in New Jersey for this...I dropped in here to find out if anything was confirmed at this end -that's all I know...I check Jackie's site (Fires of Sorrow) for updates...
as for your question, both you and MourningStar are correct about the postings in the forums-I have no interest in taking sides or get involved in band bashing. I would really enjoy seeing this tour if I get the chance though.

SteeL_ToeD_DrunK 09-02-2004 11:37 PM

Believe it or not I've never even heard of Otep. Who are they like?

ravyn 09-03-2004 02:06 PM

well mike, after already being exposed to *CRISIS* and karyn's insane vocals, you don't want to hear any other female attempt doing any kind of metal.
you'll have to decide for yourself.....
i mean how can you compare ANYBODY in ANY way after being exposed to *CRISIS* for like 10 years!!!!
otep is mediocre - there,i said it.

firesofsorrow 09-03-2004 06:20 PM

Remember, though, Ravyn...Everyone has different tastes. What we are obsessed about, someone else may find repulsive...If there were no diversity in this world, it'd be awfully boring!!!
You gotta respect anyone trying to be a musician, even if we don't like what they are doing. It's hard work, and if they are passionate about the work, I say more power to them!!!

The_moon_risisng 09-03-2004 06:43 PM

ha it is true./.. Look at confirmed dates.....

SteeL_ToeD_DrunK 09-04-2004 10:31 AM

Ok well I downloaded a few Otep songs and you know what? I ain't a fan, as a matter of fuct, I say they aren't good there I said it. They sound like handicaps eating garbage (But I am a dick). BUT I don't want fans of Otep to listen to my shit remarks because it is just me and in certain eyes and ears they are fuckin sweet. It's a matter of matter of moment and taste. I fucking don't wanna fucking go off on a giant fuckin rant here or catagorization of Crisis as JUST a female vocal band as their only frill. Because they are fuckin sweet all around and I love them for the amazing music they play. But I'm saying, as far as female bands they should play a gig with, it would be sweet to see Crisis tour with The Cycle sluts from hell (it would be fuckin awesome if they got back together)! Especially with that song "I wish you were a beer". It would get the moshes warmed up before Crisis came on and took everyone's life in the pit by kicking ass!

Frogmonkey 09-08-2004 04:21 AM

I hate to get involved in shit like this... but I will anyways. Otep just tends more towards pop-hardcore (along the lines of Slipknot, etc.) but the music isn't particularly bad (at least on Sevas Tra, the only disc of their I have). Confession was actually a damn good song, but the rest of the disc pales in comparison. Mostly, I am not a particlular fan of Otep herself and constantly spelling "I" (the personal pronoun) as "eye" (which is a noun and a body part). Pretense annoys me.

I think that the comparisons all around are a bit unfair, though, and seem to be based entirely on comparisons between Karyn and Otep. Okay,I've been guilty of this in the past (on this forum no less) but there is much more to both bands than the vocalist and the fact of their femininity. It is the same as if you were comparing Crisis and 12 Tribes just because the guitarists are male.

damn this was long...I will shut up now

OTEP_CannibaL 09-10-2004 11:00 AM

i'll say that i love Otep.
but, what the fuck are you talking about when you said there was shit being talked in the Otep forum. why don't you find proof to back up your accusations because right now you just made yourself look like an ass.

scottydawg 11-23-2007 10:05 AM

Interview with Otep
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