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guy_in_a_band357 05-21-2006 09:50 PM

Does the lead guitarist use a string dampener?
 
Does the lead guitarist use a string dampener?

skin_blanketed 05-22-2006 02:13 AM

I saw them play last night and he was using a blue hair tie as a dampener.

guy_in_a_band357 05-23-2006 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by skin_blanketed
I saw them play last night and he was using a blue hair tie as a dampener.

I saw them at the Darkroom. 5-20-06. I saw the ponytail holder too, and was glad to see another guitar not afraid to cheat in plain sight.

Uniden 05-23-2006 11:46 AM

What's a string dampener?

MidasPitboss 05-24-2006 12:29 AM

I'm new to string-dampening, and was curious if it still has the same effect on guitars wit Tremelo-locking systems, and how exactly it works (how much tension, what is the effect/main difference, what you can use for homemade ones, etc).

guy_in_a_band357 05-24-2006 01:23 AM

String dampeners make you sound cleaner and better than you actually are. It's cheating! But, if you want to use one, just wrap a sock around the fretboard somewhere around 3rd-5th fret. The tension should be tight enough to mute all the strings, but not enough to fret the strings(strings should not ring out). Then play and sound better than ever. This will stop all open strings from ringing though arpeggios and runs.

skin_blanketed 05-25-2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by guy_in_a_band357
I saw them at the Darkroom. 5-20-06. I saw the ponytail holder too, and was glad to see another guitar not afraid to cheat in plain sight.

Same show man. I was more than a little disappointed with the sound but it was a fucking excellent show. did you stay around for Alarum?

guy_in_a_band357 05-25-2006 08:35 PM

Nah, I had a long drive back to Jackson and work in the morning.

skin_blanketed 05-27-2006 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by guy_in_a_band357
Nah, I had a long drive back to Jackson and work in the morning.

Gotcha. I was really impressed with their set. They did a Death and Atheist cover both of which were extremely impressive.

Kill The Scene 05-27-2006 08:25 AM

I hate when people call something cheating. You're an idiot. This shit was invented for a reason. To make your shit sound better. How is it cheating? It doesn't make your hands move any faster or slower so shut up you fucking idiot.

Box 05-27-2006 08:58 AM

Easy there buddy. Dont get all worked up over that. Quite rude in fact.

I do somewhat, using choice words, agree with you. I'd see it more as a band trademark sound than cheating. Think about this... Jim's up there working his ass off with that guitar work. Dampner or not, he made my jaw drop at the 5-24 show.

guy_in_a_band357 05-28-2006 02:22 AM

Exactly! It's not cheating, but it still is cheating. And when I say cheating, I don't mean cheating, I mean helping you sound cleaner than you are! Dude still rips though! Michael Angelo Batio uses his gay hair to distract you from his string dampener. hehe

modern death 05-28-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kill The Scene
I hate when people call something cheating. You're an idiot. This shit was invented for a reason. To make your shit sound better. How is it cheating? It doesn't make your hands move any faster or slower so shut up you fucking idiot.

Shut the fuck up.

ViRtUoSoXxX 06-02-2006 06:40 AM

Jim's playing is unreal!! hairband or not. to be able to sing and shred like that at the same time, man i was extremely impressed when i saw Arsis live last week... so impressed i bought a t-shirt haha anyway...

here's a good shot of the infamous blue hairband:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/beelzeb...in/pool-arsis/

guy_in_a_band357 06-13-2006 04:58 AM

[ViRtUoSoXxX] Jim's playing is unreal!! hairband or not. to be able to sing and shred like that at the same time, man i was extremely impressed.

Oh I'm not trying to talk bad about Jim, I was just wondering if that was a string dampener or a good luck charm or some other crap.

EchoesOfDecimation 06-18-2006 10:53 AM

He`s awesome. I couldnt believe he was singing and sweeping in a diamond for a disease. :dj:

Shawn 06-29-2006 09:22 AM

Part of playing guitar however, is also being able to know exactly what techniques you can use to your advantage to make you more efficient, and overall just have a better sound.


Is putting your rig on a block of wood cheating because it limits buzzing sound which means you can then EQ differently, so you don't have to worry as much about where you pick the string to get a more trebly, or bassy sound?

no, no it isn't.

Besides, personally, I've never used anything to dampen my strings, but I just tried the hairtie thing, and I even had one that was a little tighter (it broke, so I tied it), and its effect was little to none.

Pethical 07-03-2006 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Transient
nah, get a hairtie and put it at the zero fret (well, my guitar has one. put it up as high as possible so you dont block any frets at all)


can you please take a photo about what you are talking about, i can't get it right.

lockley100 07-05-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pethical
can you please take a photo about what you are talking about, i can't get it right.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j288/lockley100/0.jpg

jandro 07-14-2006 02:40 PM

honestly, who gives a fuck. Jim owns.

jandro 07-15-2006 08:49 PM

my pleasure.

Trajhver 07-24-2006 03:27 PM

do you guys think i could get this to work on an acoustic guitar? should i go with the sock method or the hair tie method? :)

Evansduality 07-25-2006 07:57 AM

greg howe also uses a hair tie, and no-one's complaining.

BaptizedBurning 07-27-2006 07:17 PM

where can one find a good hair tie? i might feel kinda gay looking around women stores trying to find a hair tie.

fatalerror 07-29-2006 03:30 AM

Hair ties make your legato and two-hand tapping cleaner because you don't have to mute the unused strings. Sweeping is more of a right hand technique, so I wouldn't say that Hair ties make your sweeping cleaner.

noctambulant89 08-07-2006 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fatalerror
Hair ties make your legato and two-hand tapping cleaner because you don't have to mute the unused strings. Sweeping is more of a right hand technique, so I wouldn't say that Hair ties make your sweeping cleaner.

except it helps with muting making less work for the right hand.

anyways.. jim owns. dampener or not.

guardsatonramps 08-30-2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Transient
Main Entry: 1cheat
Pronunciation: 'chEt
Function: verb
transitive senses
1 : to deprive of something valuable by the use of deceit or fraud
2 : to influence or lead by deceit, trick, or artifice


putting a hair tie, towel, other dampener on the guitar strings is without a shadow of a doubt a form of cheating. cheating effects more than just speed. incase you aren't a guitar player-
putting a dampener allows you to cheat on mainly one thing. sweep picking. at least 50% to making a sweep sound good is swiftly muting the strings after you fret them. the dampener does that for you, so you dont have to be paying such attention to your palm while you play.

that isnt to say jim uses it as a crutch to hide a lack of ability. its a small little helper to allow him to be a little less focused while playing. hes without a doubt a technically able guitarist and i bet he sounds great without a dampener. but he uses one, and its cheating by definition



agreed

nepoleon_solo 09-11-2006 08:52 PM

only guys who use them 'cause they need 'em are those doofuses from avenged sevenfold

AndThePsychicSaw 09-14-2006 03:09 PM

John Petrucci from Dream Theater always uses one in the studio.
Joe Satriani uses his hand.

Anyway... I was wondering... Doesn't Arsis have Open notes in their songs? If they do, wouldn't the string dampening affect that?

Theat001 08-15-2010 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AndThePsychicSaw (Post 1980862)
John Petrucci from Dream Theater always uses one in the studio.
Joe Satriani uses his hand.

Anyway... I was wondering... Doesn't Arsis have Open notes in their songs? If they do, wouldn't the string dampening affect that?

Yeah, it does, especially since you're using it to mute strings. You can move it off the strings, or close enough that it's not affecting them (which actually takes some skill if you're not used to it, I'd guess). Some people also mute everything at the base, but that kinda screws any chance of good distortion. I'm pretty sure Petrucci does this, and it's only to ensure that it's clean while in studio. Of course...he pulls it off flawless live...so...

I've yet to try it, but I don't really see it as cheating if you're not relying on it, and you really can't rely on it to clean your tone up. There are some 8 finger tapping parts that are almost impossible to mute without something muting for you. (aimed at whoever said it was cheating...)


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