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tenorbass 01-21-2007 02:54 PM

I have found that the best reference is John Mclaughlin's This Is The Way I Do It. Its a 3 dvd box set shows how he solos over chords, how modes tie into solos, what are modes and scales and also super cool solos that he tabs out and demos fast and slow. You can find the Box set on oink. Here Is a DL link to the tabs, chords and midi to all that is shown in the dvd.

joshgrind 01-21-2007 05:44 PM


just keep it going and come back up.....


for begginers, but I do this warming up.

BZM 01-22-2007 03:21 PM

with this article i FINALLY was able to wrap my head around polyrhythms (NOT to be confused with polymeters!)

Try the examples, first with both hands, then both both feet, then try with one hand and one foot... you'll feel like a badass, like you're tomas haake or sean reinert or something, hahaha

Ouroboros 01-22-2007 04:55 PM

I had a decent understanding of a polyrhythm but this article gave me some closure and a very good understanding of it. Thanks!

Check this page out, it's a pretty amazing idea, and helps you get past some personal compositional blocks. However, using this method makes whatever your writing usually keyless, unless you purposely put a modal or scalar pattern into your 12 tone circle.

Ron Jarzombek is definitely one of the most progressive musicians out there today.

BZM 01-22-2007 07:02 PM

I've used tone rows before, but that circle of tones shit is mindblowing... i'll have to take a deeper look at it when I have more time.

Ouroboros 01-23-2007 01:25 PM

Yeah, it's a lot less restricting than using tone rows, since you can use different group patterns giving many different options with your circle, instead of just taking a row, and applying retrograde and inversions to it.

And, I kind of had a brain fart in my previous post. It is pointless to use scale or mode fragments in this circle, because the tone circle's whole purpose is to eliminate the use of typical patterns and methods. Also, even if you did, there are still 12 tones being used, so it would always be keyless, regardless of one riff or lick being in one particular mode/scale.

smorgasborg 03-06-2007 08:56 PM

ummm, were posts deleted from this thread or something. Because I clearly remember posts I made and others made no longer being here. I just checked up to look up some stuff for reference, and it's no longer in this thread.

Or am I just dillusional?

Ouroboros 03-07-2007 01:15 PM

There was a server crash awhile back...Could be the reason...

Sir ShredsAlot 03-20-2007 09:03 PM

Heres some warm ups i often use i provided an audio example as well




gein 03-24-2007 05:51 PM

heres a simple diminished arpeggio lick/warm-up:





once you start playing it you'll begin to notice that it uses some diminished domninant 7 shapes.

Wakeness 03-25-2007 12:34 AM

I'm just posting here to make in an even 100 posts in this thread.

BZM 03-26-2007 10:09 AM

this took me forever to fix... but here you go, HERE'S a tasteful sweepy lick for you folks...

from Nevermore's Psalm of Lydia.





|-19h22-19------------------- 19h22t24p22p19------19h21-18----- 18|



Ouroboros 03-26-2007 12:32 PM

That's good practice. Sounds great too. Difficult only because I can't sweep barred notes too well.

BZM 03-26-2007 12:33 PM

yep, I have the exact same problem - that's why I've been working on this

systematically searching out my weaknesses and then smashing them \m/

Here's a video example of the man playing it, even he has some trouble up high on the neck

Ouroboros 03-26-2007 12:39 PM

Yeah, that's the way to do it. I have trouble with string skipping at shred speeds too, but all it takes is practice. So much practice that you think your fingers are going to split open...And then more practice.

That's a sweet vid. He screws up playing it slow though, heh. But still, Loomis is a killer guitarist. I was checking out his new 7 string Schecter. Why don't you like that company?

BZM 03-26-2007 12:45 PM

Their quality control is fucking awful... I picked up a C1 at a music store, there were disgusting bubbles in the paint, jagged frets... - another thing about schecter is that they always use high quality components (pickups, tuners, bridges, etc) and yet they STILL don't play as good as other guitars in the same price range which might not have all the name brand stuff on them (like Ibanez), but play better and SOUND better (I don't think Schecter uses very good wood...)

I will admit though... Loomis' new signature guitar, the one with the ash body and maple fretboard and 26.5" scale (very unique! inbetween a fender and baritone scale)... it looks RATHER sexy, and it might just be enough to change my opinion of Schecter... I just have to play one and see what happens.

Ouroboros 03-26-2007 12:50 PM

Yeah, I'd love to try one out.

A friend of mine has a Schecter, I don't know the model, but it was a higher-end one, and it was pretty great. No factory screw ups, but he did customize a lot of stuff on it. The dude builds his own guitars, and he says he would recommend them. Everyone I've talked to prefers Ibanez over them though.

BZM 03-30-2007 02:18 AM

oh, if anyone wants to watch a video of me goofing off on my 'fiddle to some Dillinger tunage, then


Ouroboros 03-30-2007 12:29 PM

If you haven't been to there are some great guitarists and great lesson/practice videos and tabs on that site.

BZM 04-09-2007 04:21 PM

My friend Jon (from Murderous Ambition) actually wrote a couple of articles for CFH back in the day; and his former bandmate Santiago Dobles has a DVD there too!

veshly 04-23-2007 12:10 AM

What a great thread.

This site has a ton of scales tabbed out all over the fret bored in any key you want.

Manwë 05-04-2007 03:04 AM

I saw the Caug arpeggio in the pages before and wanted to find a way to make it function in a lighter mood so I just did this.


CAug/Maj7 Doodley:
  C  E  G# C  E  G  B C 

And if you like sweepin', tappin', and stretchin' more,
here's the same thing just arranged a bit differently:
  C  E  G#  C  E  G  B C 

Basically both variations of the riff are a set of connected arpeggios:
CAug (C E G#) and Cmaj7 (C E G B). As you can tell, I've included the note
relative to the fret so you can connect the dots.

The first variation is what I originally played it as. I like slides and
such so I naturally did that. I don't sweep the Aug but obviously you can.

The second one is more for the typical shred thing. Sweep where applicable.

Subjugate 05-25-2007 09:07 PM

psalms of lydia sweep, that one is sick. Wasnt that hard for me because i always practiced that pattern, ima try to contribut within the next day or so

RainWhenIDie 06-02-2007 10:18 AM

I love this thread...I don't have an electric guitar but who gives a damn the value of all these things here is amazing...This is certainly bookmarked.

Endless 08-03-2007 12:30 PM

killer jam track page.. so many progressions to jam to it's unreal, check it:

and some shawn lane licks transcribed by guthrie govan himself for any ridiculously gnarly players (it was more or less a blow to my self-esteem but if you understand theory it's cool to see how lane arranges odd groupings of notes):

TreyAzagthoth 08-03-2007 09:16 PM

luciodeath 08-07-2007 09:55 PM

this books is pretty awesome. got a lot of exercises. it's a bass boox, but it can be used by guitarists with no problem.

luciodeath 08-07-2007 09:58 PM

check out this thread. pretty good explanation on some theory topics there.
if any of you guys have any doubt on anything there tell me. Since i'm pretty used to all the theory explained there, i may be able to help you out.

GrindYourMind 08-08-2007 04:23 AM

I'm so glad that person took Music 101. Yawn.

Fear the Klown 08-09-2007 03:58 AM

Does anyone know any good sites for playing bass? I can't seem to find anything good...

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