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Old 11-20-2010, 04:28 PM   #31
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Tolkien invented some great stories and characters and settings and lore, but his writing is terrible. It may be a personal preference, but his pacing sucks and his writing its very slow paced. I loved reading his stories, but when I went back to re-read them, his style just pissed me off.

I cant stand how he gives such details on so many things that don't add anything to the story. Go back and re-read them, you'll be amazed at how much of it is just in there for no reason.

Also, Lord of the Rings has the worst denouement of any story ever written. Its worse than the Bible.
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Tolkien invented some great stories and characters and settings and lore, but his writing is terrible. It may be a personal preference, but his pacing sucks and his writing its very slow paced. I loved reading his stories, but when I went back to re-read them, his style just pissed me off.

I cant stand how he gives such details on so many things that don't add anything to the story. Go back and re-read them, you'll be amazed at how much of it is just in there for no reason.

Also, Lord of the Rings has the worst denouement of any story ever written. Its worse than the Bible.
You should seriously consider reading Dune if you think Tolkien has a "terrible writing style". (He doesn't). Frank Herbert is similar because of the vast and complex universe he created, but unlike Tolkien, is completely unable to tie in everything in a satisfying way. Also his writing style is remarkably bland and terrible.




Also also, moar Emma. The movies I like for trying to be grittier (I don't mean the harsh lighting and grey tones, but how destructive and violent and random hurling magic bolts at each other is) and how we don't need to spend 2 hours inside Hogwarts.
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Tolkien invented some great stories and characters and settings and lore, but his writing is terrible. It may be a personal preference, but his pacing sucks and his writing its very slow paced. I loved reading his stories, but when I went back to re-read them, his style just pissed me off.

I cant stand how he gives such details on so many things that don't add anything to the story. Go back and re-read them, you'll be amazed at how much of it is just in there for no reason.

Also, Lord of the Rings has the worst denouement of any story ever written. Its worse than the Bible.
That's because he pretty much writes epics for fantasy literature, unlike JK Rowling. I honestly don't think it's fair to even compare them, considering how primitive her material is in comparison to his. He is infinitely more creative, too.

Rowling seems to directly model the Harry Potter world after the real world - they go to cafes, buy school supplies, go to their little wizard classes, etc. Children and youth are a perfect audience for this, because it puts their lives in a "magical" context of sorts. Fuck, Harry even comes from a suburban family that he is "different" from, which is how every teenage kid feels, and is thus able to identify with this series. I understand they change later on, but I just find this so cheap and shallow. It's clever, but it doesn't make her a good writer in my eyes.
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Anyone who goes to see this movie, or has seen any of the other ones is a huge faggot.
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there was a lot more action in the movie than i thought there would be. i only read the last book once but i felt like they were the damn woods for so fucking long.
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Seriously though...the movie and books were awesome. Read HP7 3 times. Lame and nerdy I guess but it was still awesome.

The books aren't even childish anymore. There is a common theme of danger/violence/corruption throughout, at one point it can be inferred that a character got raped, and everyone is getting murdered left and right.

True the first 3 or 4 were young audience level, but now they are pretty much acceptable for all ages.
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harry potter is a bunch of government witchery to corrupt children and turn them into losers who get beat up at school
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I have to admit that the large amount of decent looking nerdy chicks dressing like wizarding sluts at the midnight premiere was most excellent.
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You should seriously consider reading Dune if you think Tolkien has a "terrible writing style". (He doesn't). Frank Herbert is similar because of the vast and complex universe he created, but unlike Tolkien, is completely unable to tie in everything in a satisfying way. Also his writing style is remarkably bland and terrible.
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I always dug the Potter movies from a cinematic standpoint, but this is one is certainly the worst of the series so far... Mostly because it is the weakest storytelling courtesy JK Rowling. Amateur hour across the board here...

she relies on such standard imagery to project themes of "evil" and injustice (like the Ministry wizards all having red armbands) - another thing that got to me was that all the conflict in the narrative was mailed in via magical objects and inane "rules" regarding them... So, we don't really have ANY character development or conflict when Harry and Ron fight because it is another magical doohickey that influencing Ron to be evillll!11111.

And it is so fucking hamfistedly dramatic as if Dobby dying, a character who never really meant much to potter 18 movies ago since we last saw him, gets a King Lear death scene treatment after his ROOTS inspired speech "I aint no slave!"

Fuck this.
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Apparently, now she is writing a prequel series. PLEASE NO MORE.
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I always dug the Potter movies from a cinematic standpoint, but this is one is certainly the worst of the series so far... Mostly because it is the weakest storytelling courtesy JK Rowling. Amateur hour across the board here...

she relies on such standard imagery to project themes of "evil" and injustice (like the Ministry wizards all having red armbands) - another thing that got to me was that all the conflict in the narrative was mailed in via magical objects and inane "rules" regarding them... So, we don't really have ANY character development or conflict when Harry and Ron fight because it is another magical doohickey that influencing Ron to be evillll!11111.

And it is so fucking hamfistedly dramatic as if Dobby dying, a character who never really meant much to potter 18 movies ago since we last saw him, gets a King Lear death scene treatment after his ROOTS inspired speech "I aint no slave!"

Fuck this.
Yeah she is only the highest selling author of all time...but what the fuck does she know right?
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I always dug the Potter movies from a cinematic standpoint, but this is one is certainly the worst of the series so far... Mostly because it is the weakest storytelling courtesy JK Rowling. Amateur hour across the board here...
Not to defend Rowling or anything buuuuuuttt.....The books weren't split. So it was more focused than this movie.

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she relies on such standard imagery to project themes of "evil" and injustice (like the Ministry wizards all having red armbands) - another thing that got to me was that all the conflict in the narrative was mailed in via magical objects and inane "rules" regarding them... So, we don't really have ANY character development or conflict when Harry and Ron fight because it is another magical doohickey that influencing Ron to be evillll!11111.
Go read the New Yorker. I doubt Rowling had any say as far as the costume department went....We all know how the story-writers get shut out.

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And it is so fucking hamfistedly dramatic as if Dobby dying, a character who never really meant much to potter 18 movies ago since we last saw him, gets a King Lear death scene treatment after his ROOTS inspired speech "I aint no slave!"

Fuck this.
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