SMNnews Forums

Go Back   SMNnews Forums > General Forums > Death Metal Discussion

Death Metal Discussion churlish elitist commentary. our most popular forum yet. metal not necessarily discussed.







Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 08-19-2017, 02:14 PM   #1
Tacos
blastin' up a storm
 
Tacos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Trois-Rivičres
Posts: 1,508
Rep Power: 10 Tacos beat up jewski
SO, on which side are you?



VS




LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN
Tacos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-19-2017, 08:55 PM   #2
Skeetsystem
cash/money pronouns
 
Skeetsystem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: VIEWING MYRIAD BATTLES
Posts: 2,101
Rep Power: 9 Skeetsystem beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

I mean facebook's gonna facebook but I never thought I'd get shit for saying both sides were ridiculous there. I think people think they have a free pass to try and violently shut down alt-right people or draw conclusions about the moral imperatives of centrists just because hillbillies and white nationalists will show up on the side of these alt-right gatherings. I'm like okay but guys with Communist flags will get among these black lives matter/ANTIFA groups and they tell me "that's only a few people, you must be racist."

I usually understand there's nothing to gain with getting into these kind of conversations but I don't know, it seems a little bit more important to weigh in on because we might be a few steps from martial law. Like now people are desecrating Lincoln statues.

smh America
Skeetsystem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 01:19 AM   #3
Flaccid Penguin
Form Voltron
 
Flaccid Penguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 66
Rep Power: 1 Flaccid Penguin beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

I hate blacks, I hate spics
I hate Jews, I hate chinks
I hate Arabs, I hate mongoloids
I hate lesbians
Flaccid Penguin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 07:36 PM   #4
Gangrene
Registered User
 
Gangrene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,739
Rep Power: 10 Gangrene beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeetsystem View Post
I mean facebook's gonna facebook but I never thought I'd get shit for saying both sides were ridiculous there. I think people think they have a free pass to try and violently shut down alt-right people or draw conclusions about the moral imperatives of centrists just because hillbillies and white nationalists will show up on the side of these alt-right gatherings. I'm like okay but guys with Communist flags will get among these black lives matter/ANTIFA groups and they tell me "that's only a few people, you must be racist."

I usually understand there's nothing to gain with getting into these kind of conversations but I don't know, it seems a little bit more important to weigh in on because we might be a few steps from martial law. Like now people are desecrating Lincoln statues.

smh America
agree
Gangrene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 08:43 PM   #5
Dizzy Alpaca Party
My body is ready
 
Dizzy Alpaca Party's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 386
Rep Power: 3 Dizzy Alpaca Party beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

every group is dumb, every group is ignorant, every group is wrong, the human species is worthless, we're all going to die alone and in pain, your political opinions don't matter, nobody has a solution, and everybody is an asshole. Don't dilute topic-segregated forums of discussion with irrelevant drivel about what you think a species should value and pursue; this is a site about music, let's keep it that way.

Dizzy Alpaca Party is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 10:05 PM   #6
Lichtbringer
Kellerstahl
 
Lichtbringer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ass
Posts: 8,699
Rep Power: 23 Lichtbringer beat up jewskiLichtbringer beat up jewskiLichtbringer beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

"We're a few steps from martial law. Hmm, I better weigh in on Facebook!"
Lichtbringer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 10:06 PM   #7
Gangrene
Registered User
 
Gangrene's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,739
Rep Power: 10 Gangrene beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Edgy Alpaca Party
Gangrene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 10:16 PM   #8
Skeetsystem
cash/money pronouns
 
Skeetsystem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: VIEWING MYRIAD BATTLES
Posts: 2,101
Rep Power: 9 Skeetsystem beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lichtbringer View Post
"We're a few steps from martial law. Hmm, I better weigh in on Facebook!"
Well unfortunately the people I know have now either become extremists or extremist sympathizers, so yes, this is a preferable course of action to...marching in the streets for the haji race to buttfuck me or whatever you'd do in my situation.
Skeetsystem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 11:07 PM   #9
Sculpy
Registered User
 
Sculpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Noo Joisey
Posts: 3,999
Rep Power: 15 Sculpy beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Martial law is consititutionally illegal. It's treason for our standing army to militarily occupy any state on Federal orders, or hold any citizen without trial by jury.

Having said that, I haven't been keeping 100% up to date with all the legal machinations of the lawmakers through the last few admins. I know congress passed a bunch of scary shit under Bush and Obama, but I don't remember if they tried to overturn that part of the constitution. I know bills were passed allowing potential emergency powers that resemble martial law...

But, yeah. It's treasonous as fuck to enforce martial law in America. Martial law is what sparked the revolution, lol.
Sculpy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2017, 11:57 PM   #10
Dizzy Alpaca Party
My body is ready
 
Dizzy Alpaca Party's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 386
Rep Power: 3 Dizzy Alpaca Party beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sculpy View Post
Martial law is consititutionally illegal. It's treason for our standing army to militarily occupy any state on Federal orders, or hold any citizen without trial by jury.

Having said that, I haven't been keeping 100% up to date with all the legal machinations of the lawmakers through the last few admins. I know congress passed a bunch of scary shit under Bush and Obama, but I don't remember if they tried to overturn that part of the constitution. I know bills were passed allowing potential emergency powers that resemble martial law...

But, yeah. It's treasonous as fuck to enforce martial law in America. Martial law is what sparked the revolution, lol.

*ahem*

From wikipedia:

Quote:
New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812 Edit
During the War of 1812, US General Andrew Jackson imposed martial law in New Orleans, Louisiana before repulsing the British in the Battle of New Orleans.[30][31][32] Martial law was also imposed in a four-mile radius around the vicinity. When word came of the end of the war, Jackson maintained martial law, contending that he had not gotten official word of the peace. A judge demanded habeas corpus for a man arrested for sedition. Rather than comply with the writ, Jackson had the judge arrested.

Ex parte Milligan Edit
On September 15, 1863 President Lincoln imposed Congressionally authorized martial law.[33] The authorizing act allowed the President to suspend habeas corpus throughout the entire United States (which he had already done under his own authority on April 27, 1861). Lincoln imposed the suspension on "prisoners of war, spies, or aiders and abettors of the enemy," as well as on other classes of people, such as draft dodgers. The President's proclamation was challenged in Ex parte Milligan, 71 US 2 [1866]. The Supreme Court ruled that Lincoln's imposition of martial law (by way of suspension of habeas corpus) was unconstitutional in areas where the local courts were still in session.

The Great Chicago Fire Edit
In response to the Great Chicago Fire of 1871, Chicago mayor Roswell B. Mason declared a state of martial law and placed General Philip Sheridan in charge of the city on October 9, 1871. After the fire was extinguished, there were no widespread disturbances and martial law was lifted within a few days.[34]

Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, 1892 Edit
In 1892, in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, striking mine workers blew up a mill and shot at strike-breaking workers. The explosion leveled a four-story building and killed one person. The governor declared martial law. At the same time, a request was made for federal troops to back guardsmen. Over 600 people were arrested. The list was whittled down to two dozen ringleaders who were tried in military court. While in prison, the mine workers formed a new union, the Western Federation of Miners.

San Francisco earthquake of 1906 Edit
Following the earthquake of 1906, the troops stationed in the Presidio were pressed into martial law service. Guards were posted throughout the city, and all dynamite was confiscated. The dynamite was used to destroy buildings in the path of fires, to prevent the fires from spreading.

Colorado Coalfield War Edit
In 1914, imposition of martial law climaxed the so-called Colorado Coalfield War. Dating back decades, the conflicts came to a head in Ludlow, Colorado in 1913. The Colorado National Guard was called in to quell the strikers. For a time, the peace was kept, but it is reported that the make-up of the Guard stationed at the mines began to shift from impartial normal troops to companies of loyal mine guards. Clashes increased and the proclamation of martial law was made by the governor, eventually resulting in the Ludlow Massacre. President Wilson sent in federal troops, eventually ending the violence.

West Virginia Coal Wars Edit
During the events of the West Virginia Coal Wars (1920–1921), martial law was declared in the state of West Virginia. At the behest of Governor Cornwell, federal troops had been dispatched to Mingo County to deal with the striking miners. The army officer in charge acted, ostensibly, under the Suspension Clause of Article I of the United States Constitution (selectively; accounts show that he only jailed union miners), and did not allow assembly of any kind. If his soldiers found any union miners, they immediately took them and imprisoned them. The jails filled up so quickly that he had to release miners. As it went, miners were arrested, jailed, and released without any sort of trial. After a time, when the trial of Sid Hatfield began, the military occupation and "veritable military dictatorship" (Governor Cornwell) of the army officer ended. Many of the miners were not released from jail. It was only the first of three times that federal troops would be called to quiet the miners in the West Virginia Mine War.[citation needed]

San Francisco, California, 1934 Edit
In 1934, California Governor Frank Merriam placed the docks of San Francisco under martial law, citing "riots and tumult" resulting from a dock worker's strike. The Governor threatened to place the entire city under martial law. The National Guard was called in to open the docks, and a citywide institution of martial law was averted when goods began to flow. The guardsmen were empowered to make arrests and to then try detainees or turn them over to the courts.

The Territory of Hawaii Edit
During World War II (1939 to 1945) what is now the State of Hawaii was held under martial law from December 7, 1941 to October 24, 1944, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.[35] Many Hawaiians were, and are, of Japanese descent, and the loyalty of these people was called into question[citation needed]. After the war, the federal judge for the islands condemned the conduct of martial law, saying, "Gov. Poindexter declared lawfully martial law but the Army went beyond the governor and set up that which was lawful only in conquered enemy territory namely, military government which is not bound by the Constitution. And they ... threw the Constitution into the discard and set up a military dictatorship."[36]

Freedom Riders Edit
Main article: Freedom Riders
On May 21, 1961, Governor Patterson of Alabama declared martial law "as a result of outside agitators coming into Alabama to violate our laws and customs" which had led to "outbreaks of lawlessness and mob action."[37]
Dizzy Alpaca Party is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2017, 01:57 AM   #11
Skeetsystem
cash/money pronouns
 
Skeetsystem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: VIEWING MYRIAD BATTLES
Posts: 2,101
Rep Power: 9 Skeetsystem beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

And recently, when police departments around the country decided it was time to split up Occupy protests they were just casually strolling by and blasting non-violent people with mace. Martial Law is just a name, and obviously implementing it by name is "bad press" for the responsible party. When the police want you to go home they'll do whatever they can to make you, and no ad hoc DOJ investigation (like Ferguson) is going to change their tactics.
Skeetsystem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2017, 08:52 AM   #12
(((OdiumNostrum
Registered User
 
(((OdiumNostrum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 3,206
Rep Power: 11 (((OdiumNostrum beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

#pous 2020

(((OdiumNostrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2017, 03:19 PM   #13
J72826
Registered User
 
J72826's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 751
Rep Power: 8 J72826 beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Oh easy



Oh and Skeet I'm pretty sure we're pretty safe on the BLM/Antifa melange, Antifa people are never even seen around poc's
J72826 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2017, 12:33 AM   #14
Sculpy
Registered User
 
Sculpy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Noo Joisey
Posts: 3,999
Rep Power: 15 Sculpy beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Thanks for the history D.A.P. I'd say I wasn't educated in America and that I only arrived recently, but that's no excuse 'cuz it isn't like they teach real history in American schools either any more anyway. I guess Americans don't generally know/care about the constitution. To be fair, a lot of those examples were legal; by invitation or order of the state's governor.

But I agree, skeet. The power is all in place to institute a national martial law in all but name. I used to imagine martial law was a real possibility, but it'd really be a last resort. Although most of us are reliably stupid, obedient or cowed into cowardice, martial law would still be a wild card, and another civil war would invite many possibly devastating and far-reaching consequences for American leadership and sovereignty on the global stage.
I think our ruling classes would really rather avoid martial law if at all possible, because of the very slight but real risks of sparking a new civil war. After antagonizing and economically coercing so much of the world allied to Russia, and Russia, for so long, who knows what foreign trouble could be invited if any widespread chaos gains foothold within the U.S.'s own borders.
For all the U.S.'s dwarfing military might, and the apparent ease with which the American population could probably be programmed and coerced via economic crises, false flags, fear, division etc by its government, police and deep state apparatuses, as has been proven in the past, the idea of a war on two fronts against guerilla fragments of a decently armed populace and against interventionist foreign interests would be something the elites would avoid.
Of course, there have been plenty of signs of the domestic agencies preparing for war on the home front anyway, including foreign troops, training, unorthodox exercises, stockpiling etc, so maybe your fears are justified. It almost seems as though the elites along with the Pentagon have decided that the climate-induced peopleocalypse future either cannot or just will not be avoided, and have been maneouvering to be the winners of the unneccessary endgame for some time now.

Sucks. Rant apology. What's going on?
Sculpy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2017, 07:25 PM   #15
D.O.G.O.B.G.Y.N.
ain't got no agua
 
D.O.G.O.B.G.Y.N.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 304
Rep Power: 13 D.O.G.O.B.G.Y.N. beat up john dwyer
Re: SO, on which side are you?

D.O.G.O.B.G.Y.N. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2017, 06:58 PM   #16
ceddeeoo
LORD OF DARKNESS
 
ceddeeoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: fields ov fólkvangr
Posts: 6,870
Rep Power: 15 ceddeeoo beat up jewskiceddeeoo beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

I would like to say both sides are wrong for being violent, especially since antifa here in montreal are shitcunts that have attacked metal fans for going to concerts that 'supports nsbm and nazi philosophy' or whatever retarded lie that shit is. That being said, if anyone deserves a good ass whoopin', it is those entitled nazi alt-right preaching dipshits down there in america, so they have my blessing to just all head down there and kill each other to their heart's content. god bless.

Last edited by ceddeeoo; 09-05-2017 at 07:01 PM..
ceddeeoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2017, 11:24 PM   #17
Chilidem
Sicknessament
 
Chilidem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,314
Rep Power: 16 Chilidem beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Both sides are morons. The irony of the communists, an ideology that inevitably leads to totalitarianism, battling fascism is not lost on me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ceddeeoo View Post
so they have my blessing to just all head down there and kill each other to their heart's content. god bless.
This.

Last edited by Chilidem; 09-05-2017 at 11:28 PM..
Chilidem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2017, 04:12 PM   #18
J72826
Registered User
 
J72826's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 751
Rep Power: 8 J72826 beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

ffs people communism =/= Bolsjewism


Next up people gonna start calling Maduro socialist, or antifa left-wing
J72826 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2017, 12:24 PM   #19
Skeetsystem
cash/money pronouns
 
Skeetsystem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: VIEWING MYRIAD BATTLES
Posts: 2,101
Rep Power: 9 Skeetsystem beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Well most countries in the west aren't purely capitalist either but no one's ever been a fag about it
Skeetsystem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2017, 08:35 PM   #20
SluseTheInventor
Nig Nog
 
SluseTheInventor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 890
Rep Power: 7 SluseTheInventor beat up john dwyer
Re: SO, on which side are you?

How did the frog who pees with his pants down get co-opted by neo-nazies? That sentence is so ridiculous reading over it again.
SluseTheInventor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2017, 09:01 PM   #21
Chilidem
Sicknessament
 
Chilidem's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 3,314
Rep Power: 16 Chilidem beat up jewski
Re: SO, on which side are you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeetsystem View Post
Well most countries in the west aren't purely capitalist either but no one's ever been a fag about it

You can't say that.
Chilidem is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
floyd money mayweather, mongoloids cant box




Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:23 PM.

vBulletin skin by: CompleteGFX.com
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SMNnews.com: 2002 -