songwriting

Pwnsauce · 08-07-2009, 02:48 AM

what do you do when you have a section but cannot find a way to introduce it (i mean like transition into it or where to place it)? I have this with a couple parts in one song and it's so frustrating.

modern death · 08-07-2009, 03:15 AM

Try writing drums before writing the riffs (transition riffs before and after) good drum patterns usually help me out.

ChAAPY · 08-07-2009, 04:13 PM

how many times are you going make this thread?

Pwnsauce · 08-07-2009, 06:39 PM

as many times as i want you fuck

anyway the other thread was about coming up with riffs not transitioning

heaveninscoring · 08-10-2009, 05:36 PM

get stoned and think about it.

cryptic_stench · 09-15-2009, 10:03 PM

i like your thinking

Black Marrow · 09-17-2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptic_stench

i like your thinking

I concur.

Phoncible · 09-19-2009, 05:43 PM

bounce it off someone else. or use some standard theory, going to the fifth of the first note to the next riff or wuddevvah

FecalFamine · 09-20-2009, 12:10 AM

add a one chord breakdown before the riff

Throne of Locusts · 09-20-2009, 12:17 AM

Don't force it, shelve the riffs, try something new. Or just make it a short ass song.

GrindYourMind · 09-20-2009, 12:33 AM

Listen to tunes with riffs that are similar.
For example, Disgorge and Deeds are great at shifting from one atonal, chromatic, blasting section to another. Jam some of that and see how it flows.

The Roadside Dead · 10-28-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heaveninscoring

get stoned and think about it.

This does tend to help.

Zertonshfits · 10-29-2009, 11:03 AM

PUT THE GUITAR DOWN. Try to think of how you want the song to sound in your head first. Think of it like a wave, where does it build, or breakdown (not in a slammy way... you know what I mean) and then once you have your idea of where it should go, riff writing should be a bit easier.

Also, hit that bong.

switell · 11-10-2009, 08:10 AM

Do some mad sweeps... really fast. Or try jamming with dudes man, bounce ideas off each other.

strychnine1349 · 11-17-2009, 03:07 AM

You make so many threads about this. Good to know you havn't solved it yet ;)

Think about it, and try to figure it out in your head. Assuming you're going to jam with someone, just go for broke and play it, and get input.

phaiselectai · 11-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Think of it like a wave, where does it build, or breakdown (not in a slammy way... you know what I mean) and then once you have your idea of where it should go, riff writing should be a bit easier.

RyNoDaLsO · 11-26-2009, 03:31 PM

Ummm.... yeah, so basically. You need to have a vision. I like to think up how the song with go while at the same time, incorporating ALL the instruments at the same time.... and really, once you have that vision complete. The rest should flow. and if you're having a hard time, listen to some music or have sex or something. Get some influence, ya know

switell · 11-30-2009, 10:52 AM

Sit down... for hours.. watch the simpsons. Riff that shit, over and over again. Writing good music is 95% luck dude. maow maow

mycomics007 · 11-25-2018, 02:05 AM

how frequently would you say you are going make this string?

korrida · 02-29-2020, 09:28 AM

You listen to the music with your soul.

08-07-2009, 02:48 AM	#1
Pwnsauce Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,409 Rep Power: 25	songwriting what do you do when you have a section but cannot find a way to introduce it (i mean like transition into it or where to place it)? I have this with a couple parts in one song and it's so frustrating.

11-26-2009, 03:31 PM	#17
RyNoDaLsO Stabby McStabberson Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Washington (state) Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Song Glasses Ummm.... yeah, so basically. You need to have a vision. I like to think up how the song with go while at the same time, incorporating ALL the instruments at the same time.... and really, once you have that vision complete. The rest should flow. and if you're having a hard time, listen to some music or have sex or something. Get some influence, ya know

11-30-2009, 10:52 AM	#18
switell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 83 Rep Power: 14	Sit down... for hours.. watch the simpsons. Riff that shit, over and over again. Writing good music is 95% luck dude. maow maow Last edited by switell; 11-30-2009 at 09:45 PM..

11-25-2018, 02:05 AM	#19
mycomics007 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Re: songwriting how frequently would you say you are going make this string?

02-29-2020, 09:28 AM	#20
korrida Registered User Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 42 Rep Power: 0	Re: songwriting You listen to the music with your soul.

08-07-2009, 03:15 AM	#2
modern death Hails Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 13,053 Rep Power: 29	Try writing drums before writing the riffs (transition riffs before and after) good drum patterns usually help me out.

08-07-2009, 04:13 PM	#3
ChAAPY it's one louder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX Posts: 13,632 Rep Power: 30	how many times are you going make this thread?

08-07-2009, 06:39 PM	#4
Pwnsauce Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 10,409 Rep Power: 25	as many times as i want you fuck anyway the other thread was about coming up with riffs not transitioning

08-10-2009, 05:36 PM	#5
heaveninscoring Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pittsburgh,PA Posts: 1,007 Rep Power: 13	get stoned and think about it.

09-15-2009, 10:03 PM	#6
cryptic_stench the skunky shit Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: new fukn zealand Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	i like your thinking

09-19-2009, 05:43 PM	#8
Phoncible Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: norway Posts: 1,043 Rep Power: 17	bounce it off someone else. or use some standard theory, going to the fifth of the first note to the next riff or wuddevvah

09-20-2009, 12:10 AM	#9
FecalFamine This shit stinks Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,103 Rep Power: 15	add a one chord breakdown before the riff

09-20-2009, 12:17 AM	#10
Throne of Locusts anti-life Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 89 Rep Power: 12	Don't force it, shelve the riffs, try something new. Or just make it a short ass song.

09-20-2009, 12:33 AM	#11
GrindYourMind Jedi Master Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,994 Rep Power: 18	Listen to tunes with riffs that are similar. For example, Disgorge and Deeds are great at shifting from one atonal, chromatic, blasting section to another. Jam some of that and see how it flows.

10-29-2009, 11:03 AM	#13
Zertonshfits Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Kan'Adah Posts: 116 Rep Power: 13	PUT THE GUITAR DOWN. Try to think of how you want the song to sound in your head first. Think of it like a wave, where does it build, or breakdown (not in a slammy way... you know what I mean) and then once you have your idea of where it should go, riff writing should be a bit easier. Also, hit that bong.

11-10-2009, 08:10 AM	#14
switell Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 83 Rep Power: 14	Do some mad sweeps... really fast. Or try jamming with dudes man, bounce ideas off each other.

11-17-2009, 03:07 AM	#15
strychnine1349 The Van Buren Boys Join Date: May 2006 Location: The 'Sau Posts: 9,411 Rep Power: 24	You make so many threads about this. Good to know you havn't solved it yet ;) Think about it, and try to figure it out in your head. Assuming you're going to jam with someone, just go for broke and play it, and get input.

11-17-2009, 11:12 AM	#16
phaiselectai Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1 Rep Power: 0	Think of it like a wave, where does it build, or breakdown (not in a slammy way... you know what I mean) and then once you have your idea of where it should go, riff writing should be a bit easier.

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