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Lichtbringer 01-09-2020 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzy Alpaca Party (Post 3937390)
Poetry/lyricism/words. I highly doubt that members of BDM bands actually want to see people dismembered and eaten, or that they expect giant monsters to rampage through their cities.

Maybe "satire" isn't the most technically correct word in a strict collegiate sense, but the point is that it's usually pretty damn obvious when an artist is exploring fantasies without strictly advocating for their enactment. Calling African slaves "mongrel dogs" with a "flawed geneome" makes it pretty obvious that these songs are racist trash.

I was talking about stuff like Gorgasm that’s extremely misogynistic, so I really don’t know why you’re suddenly talking about dismembered people (horror) or monsters (fantasy).
So how would you know members of Gorgasm or similar-themed bands don’t secretly beat their girlfriends senseless at home or condone and encourage violence against women? You don’t and it wouldn’t matter if you did, because no elements of satire or parody are present in the lyrics making them reprehensible trash regardless of the - in your case entirely speculative - intentions of the author.
But, as you’ve admitted, we’re talking about lyrics here, not music, and the music of both Gorgasm and Arghoslent is quite enjoyable.

pooptastik 01-09-2020 12:53 PM

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i am quite fond of both Arghoslent and GBK. Both bands have awesome music and i don't agree with their views but the lyrics were clearly written with thought behind them.



there's a bit on this acceptance speech about seeing past whatever views and seeing the actual art and appreciating it.

TLDR: psyched for both bands and new Arty B.

Oh yeah, new stuff from P2 2020:

Jon Engman
The Heretics Fork

Dizzy Alpaca Party 01-09-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lichtbringer (Post 3937394)
I was talking about stuff like Gorgasm that?s extremely misogynistic, so I really don?t know why you?re suddenly talking about dismembered people (horror) or monsters (fantasy).
So how would you know members of Gorgasm or similar-themed bands don?t secretly beat their girlfriends senseless at home or condone and encourage violence against women? You don?t and it wouldn?t matter if you did, because no elements of satire or parody are present in the lyrics making them reprehensible trash regardless of the - in your case entirely speculative - intentions of the author.
But, as you?ve admitted, we?re talking about lyrics here, not music, and the music of both Gorgasm and Arghoslent is quite enjoyable.

Hmmm truth be told I hadn't thought about extreme mysogyny in lyrics, because it's not something I personally encounter. I dislike brutal death metal in general purely from a musical standpoint, so I haven't had to make that judgement call. Themes like that usually exist only in slamz and pornogrind.

If I'm being honest, I don't think I would enjoy a band that makes violence against women their main focus without it being apparent that they're exploring a theme purely for artistic reasons rather than advocating for it.

Oleg 01-09-2020 05:34 PM

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None of the guys in Gorgasm--especially Demian, the founding member--are crazed misogynists with a lust for masculine dominance. Their lyrical content is meant to be taken like old school horror flicks, it's just a shock + awe medium to drive the instrumentals. I'm willing to bet 99% of active bands with that kind of lyrical content are using that style purely as an artistic backdrop for their music. I'm stressing the word "active" here, cause it takes a lot of fucking time, money, and dedication to be in an active band that tours. There's literally no time or resources for misogynistic practices.

Dizzy Alpaca Party 01-09-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Oleg (Post 3937405)
None of the guys in Gorgasm--especially Demian, the founding member--are crazed misogynists with a lust for masculine dominance. Their lyrical content is meant to be taken like old school horror flicks, it's just a shock + awe medium to drive the instrumentals. I'm willing to bet 99% of active bands with that kind of lyrical content are using that style purely as an artistic backdrop for their music. I'm stressing the word "active" here, cause it takes a lot of fucking time, money, and dedication to be in an active band that tours. There's literally no time or resources for misogynistic practices.

I don't doubt that, and my gut feeling would be to assume that's the case. Personally, I think I would have to draw a line depending on how it's depicted. A simple depiction/description of the acts wouldn't bother me. If the writers in question start adding stuff like "that bitch deserved it" or something, whether or not they actually mean it, it starts becoming too much like a suggestion rather than an exploration.

Monsieur Lebeauxxx 01-09-2020 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pooptastik (Post 3937402)
Oh yeah, new stuff from P2 2020:

Jon Engman
The Heretics Fork

how's that aeviterne lp shaping up?

Deathstalker 01-10-2020 01:38 AM

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A new Dragged Into Sunlight single, a long ass single at that.

https://draggedintosunlight-official...VwpizH20YvQpqs

Vadge 01-10-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaccid Penguin (Post 3937378)
VADGE IS A HANDSOME MAN WITH THICK JUICY SAUSAGE

IVE BEEN STARING AT A PICTURE OF MY DADDYS DICK SINCE THE DAY I WAS BORN
EVERY DAY HAHA
ALL THE TIME
IM CUMMING AT THE GYM RIGHT NOW HAHA
I ROCK AND ROLL ALL DAY LONG SWEET SUZY

Guys we may all have our disputes but at least we can all agree with whatever the fuck this is right?

Flaccid Penguin 01-10-2020 01:40 PM

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Thank you Vadge ^_^
You know Vadge I’ve always liked you
You seem like a really nice person

pooptastik 01-10-2020 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Monsieur Lebeauxxx (Post 3937407)
how's that aeviterne lp shaping up?

Last i heard, it's about to be sent for mastering or it was probably already sent out. im extremely excited to hear the finished product. the songs they've been playing live are bonkers.

Deathstalker 01-11-2020 02:03 AM

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So is Flourishing pretty much dead for good now? I remember them awhile back saying they reformed and there would be a new album coming out eventually but then Aeviterne came and haven't really heard any update on Flourishing.

Monsieur Lebeauxxx 01-11-2020 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pooptastik (Post 3937412)
Last i heard, it's about to be sent for mastering or it was probably already sent out. im extremely excited to hear the finished product. the songs they've been playing live are bonkers.

killer! i ripped that first show of theirs from YT and was spamming it for like a month. some gnarly shit in there that wasn't on the single so this will be a highlight for sure

Honky Reduction 01-13-2020 04:38 PM

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New album out March 27th.

DrippingInsanity 01-14-2020 01:59 AM

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FFO: Spectral Voice, diSEMBOWELMENT, Thergothon, etc.

Album comes out later this month, I believe. No pre-orders apparently.

NNotN-ENN 01-14-2020 08:40 PM

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Nu Sutrah came outta nowhere for me...



Haven't seen new Afterbirth mentioned either - this song is giving me quite heavy Anata vibes (particularly Under a Stone with No Inscription):

Lord_Plague 01-16-2020 08:56 PM

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New Igorrr


Spew 01-17-2020 03:33 AM

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My disappointment that it doesn't have vocals is mostly negated by how amazing the video is.

Dizzy Alpaca Party 01-17-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Spew (Post 3937434)
My disappointment that it doesn't have vocals is mostly negated by how amazing the video is.

I kind of liked the fact that it didn't have lyrics. This seemed like a return to form for him - I liked him better when he was primarily a breakcore artist with extreme metal sprinkled in, rather than vice versa.

New Sutrah song is good, nice work Claude, looking forward to the album

Dizzy Alpaca Party 01-17-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Honky Reduction (Post 3937421)


New album out March 27th.

This is fantastic

(((OdiumNostrum 01-17-2020 06:36 PM

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Spectral Lore / Mare Cognitum split that is almost 2 hours long. This could be huge.

https://i-voidhangerrecords.bandcamp...gy-of-the-nine

The Duff 01-18-2020 03:34 PM

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:emot-quesThat?s incredible. Two of the most intriguing black metal bands going right now, I think Voidhanger is unfairly associated with Iceland DSO but they?re more eclectic a label than say Nordvis or Dark Descent.

Really happy Afterbirth are so quickly back after such a long stretch of demos. There are few bands doing early Wormed worship, the only slam worth talking about; with Epicardiectomy being signed to NSE and Organectomy from Australia I thought I?d try the sub genre given it?s seeping into spheres I admire, I went the Russian route and godawful it is.

The new Odious Mortem two tracks in is incredible; could use some tightening up in the songwriting, surprisingly given the twelve years it took to write but it?s early days and I guess also they?ve had an abundance of material, plus they are carrying the torch for that short lived modern sound of now defunct severed savior. None do it like neurotic era California bands.

As for racism in music, I?d be hard-pressed to find an smn forumer not gutted Craig Pillard isn?t a member of the Disma anymore.:emot-LOL:

Deathstalker 01-18-2020 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duff (Post 3937441)
plus they are carrying the torch for that short lived modern sound of now defunct severed savior. None do it like neurotic era California bands.

Are they really now? Metal archives still has them listed as "active".

Nailed To Gold 01-19-2020 03:01 PM

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That Afterbirth song is from their 2014 demp. It's the 3rd song. New recording sounds pretty good.



The Duff 01-20-2020 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathstalker (Post 3937442)
Are they really now? Metal archives still has them listed as "active".

Yes ok fair enough shall we say until tragedy stops befalling them as the bassist has suffered several strokes and their lead guitarist last I heard has extreme carpal tunnel? My post was a remorseful one if perhaps ill informed detective.

Dizzy Alpaca Party 01-22-2020 07:02 PM

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This is interesting


Deathstalker 01-22-2020 11:21 PM

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I posted about Thoren on this board when Gwarth I came out awhile back.


Vadge 01-23-2020 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Duff (Post 3937441)

Really happy Afterbirth are so quickly back after such a long stretch of demos

You know they put an album out in 2017 right? That Thoren track is great btw

acidbong 01-23-2020 06:51 AM

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It seems Blut Aus Nord will be doing a H.P. Lovecraft series called Lovecraftian Echoes.

https://scontent.fagc3-2.fna.fbcdn.n...30&oe=5E9C9607

Lichtbringer 01-25-2020 06:23 AM

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Two preview tracks off the Spectral Lore/Mare Cognitum split:

http://www.invisibleoranges.com/mare...jmqKLVTKAkKdn4

Lichtbringer 01-25-2020 09:48 AM

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Also, just found out there’s a new Bohren. I think some of you are into them. If not, you should be!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...Hl4M-H_gzNHufZ


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